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GoatMan A noob needs some PS help..

I don't even know if this is in the right forum but Im trying to do a picture of me sitting beside myself like at a table or something. I figure i can just take two pictures and not move the camera and just combine them.

Therin lies the problem.

Should I just cut myself out and place myself in the other chair of the other picture OR is there a way to fade just the edges of a layer to transparency? I'd prefer to know how to do the latter. Maybe this sounds stupid or doesnt even make sense but I'd like to know if anyone can help me please.

Goat

 

StinkFist

moved to design....

 

StinkFist

And try not to double post, it's bad etiquette wink

 

Walt

Originally posted by: GoatMan
I don't even know if this is in the right forum but Im trying to do a picture of me sitting beside myself like at a table or something. I figure i can just take two pictures and not move the camera and just combine them.

Therin lies the problem.

Should I just cut myself out and place myself in the other chair of the other picture OR is there a way to fade just the edges of a layer to transparency? I'd prefer to know how to do the latter. Maybe this sounds stupid or doesnt even make sense but I'd like to know if anyone can help me please.

Goat



the two-picture method sounds like a terrific idea... [wish I'd of thunk it myself]

no real need to cut yourself out...
if you've got a tripod and take two pictures,
open both, copy and paste on atop the other
create a layer mask ansd use a soft brush to quickly paint in [or out] the background

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rogue_designer

d'oh - responded in t'other thread. Yeah. Use a layer mask where you create transparent blends, brushes, etc. They're your friend.


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dtgrafx

Originally posted by: StinkFist
it's bad etiquette wink

like eating boogers?

 

StinkFist

like eating boogers and not sharing wink

BTW since ari is all busy at the moment with new fatherly duties:

Welcome aboard GoatMan, Saturday is your turn in the barrel beer

 

possaki



sort of the same idea.
it's a pretty basic concept. overlay one pic on top of the other and erase what you don't want.
lasso tool is your friend, so is the eraser, and the quick mask mode. oh and the pen tool, and channels, but for your first attempt, stick with easy stuff.
if you have a hard time seeing which parts to get rid of, just drop your opacity on your top layer abit so you can see through it. alot of people forget they can do that.

good luck. smile

oh, and limmy used to make really cool/ creepy ones.

 

dtgrafx

that's creepy as hell possak

 

rogue_designer

The idea reminds me a bit of the work of Anthony Goicolea (there is a link on this page too... but my firewall doesn't let me in to know if anything is worthwhile in it.)

MOCP link here

He photographs himself, multiple times - sometimes in different outfits, wigs, etc, to play out these massive tableau's from his (sometimes constructed) past.

Really nice work. And a great idea. Good luck!


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dtgrafx

Originally posted by: rogue_designer
MOCP link here

That link goes to microsoft!? weird...

 

rogue_designer

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mclarkson

I did this with the layer mask techinque. It wasn't shot on a tripod, so it was a bit more trouble. shrug.gif


Linky

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GoatMan

You guys are so awesome!

but i dont think you know how Noob-esque i really am. I dont mean to bog down your brilliant minds with my PS 101 questions but... I really dont know wtf is going on with the layer mask deal. Like I made a new layer and added a layer mask but after that I dont know what im doing. I know you guys arent here to teach me to how to PS but no one else can, and Id prefer to learn from the best.

whats this whole "in the barrell" stuff?

Joel

 

mclarkson

Masks hide things; layer masks in Photoshop hide layers, or parts of layers, making them invisible.

Layer masks are probably the most underused tool in Photoshop. The typical Photoshop beginner fears and avoids layer masks. Don’t be that guy. Layer masks are super-amazing. Layer masks are fun and easy to use. Layer masks are your friends. Really. Learn to love them and your love will be rewarded.

Layer masks are like magical cloaks of invisibility. Do you remember those old cartoons where one character would find a can of ‘vanishing cream’ or ‘invisible ink’ and, upon applying it, vanish? That’s what a layer mask does. Painting a layer mask is like painting over a layer with that mythical vanishing cream: whatever you paint, disappears. It looks like you’re erasing, even though you’re not. In fact, a layer mask can do anything the eraser tool can do.

If you can’t tell one from the other, then why, you might wonder, are you supposed to care? Why am I prattling on? Why not just use the Eraser tool and be done with it? I’ll tell you why. A layer mask is infinitely more versatile than the Eraser. When you erase something, it’s gone; but when you mask something, your layer is still intact; part of it is just invisible. You can unmask it again at any time, painting in the hidden portions.

Layer masks contain black and white and shades of gray. Where a layer mask is white, that layer is visible. Where the mask is black, that layer is invisible. Ah, you ask, but what about where the mask is grey? Shades of gray render the layer is partially invisible. The lighter the shade of gray, the more the layer shows.

Contrary to what you might expect, it’s actually easier to mask things with a layer mask than with the Eraser tool. Mask allow you to be sloppy, you can use a big, broad brushstrokes, make mistakes, then go back with a smaller brush, swap the colors, and clean things up a bit.

Granted, Photoshop allows you to undo almost any action. You can undo a stroke of the eraser; you can undo the last 20 strokes of the eraser … before you save the file. But, once you save your file, all those undos are lost. Forever. Really.

But … layer masks are forever, if you want them to be. Because layer masks are saved with the file. When you open your image tomorrow, or next year, the layer mask is still there.

You can always go back and change it. Always.

You can move a layer mask around, to hide, or reveal, different parts of the layer.
Unlock the layer from the layer mask by clicking the chain link button between them in the Layers palette, then click on the layer mask thumbnail in the Layers palette.
Use the Move tool to drag the layer mask to a new position.
Or
Use your arrow keys to nudge the layer mask to a new position.
Or
Use Shift+arrow keys to move the layer mask 10 pixels at a time.
The mask moves, but the images themselves stay in place. Lock the layer and mask again, by clicking between them to restore the chain link.

You can make a layer mask bigger or smaller, squash it and stretch it, spin it around or flip it over.
Unlock the layer from the layer mask by clicking the chain link button between them, then click on the layer mask thumbnail in the Layers palette.
Lock the layer and mask again, by clicking between them to restore the chain link.

Ctrl/Command+click on the layer mask in the Layers palette to create a selection that exactly matches the layer mask. Visible portions of the layer will be selected. The hidden portions of the layer won’t. That is, the layer will be selected wherever the mask was white. They won’t be selected where the mask was black. And anywhere they mask is gray, the image will be partially selected.

You can convert a selection into a layer mask with a single mouse click. With a selection active, click the Add layer mask button at the bottom of the Layers palette (add layer mask icon). Photoshop turns your selection into a layer mask for the selected layer.

In the photo below, note that the layer mask on the top layer reveals the girl but hides everything but the girl. (It's white over the girl and the fence near her - black everywhere else.) So the girl from the top layer/photo shows, but everywhere else you see the bottom photo. Thus I use one photo/pose of the girl and another photo/pose of the boy.


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arigato

It seems the tutorials are missing in the tutorials section, just the resulting conversations are there...
I'll mercilessly harass Strinky about it.

n00blet, I am here for you:

greynotgrey.com/ian/12stone/tutes/#masking

FWIW, I would take a bunch of tripod shots and loosely mask the upper layers with the brush tool.

I recently saw an onlie clothing company (whose anme escapes me) that did a really copol thing with the same idea, taking model shots in variosu locations and then a second shot of the same location with no models, then masking out their clothes so the background showed instead to very cool effect.

 

mclarkson

That tutorial doesn't make clear that the Pen is the tool of Satan. big grin

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GoatMan

Thanks so much mclarkson... This is what i got from my first try.



I thumbnailed due to huge picture size

I used the eraser tool justa little bit cause of an issue with the cushons not lining up.

Joel

 

possaki

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dtgrafx

looks awesome!
nice work!

 
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